INTERVIEW WITH HIPNOTIC ON CLANET
Session Start: Sun Mar 16 20:22:38 1997
<Loki> Okay guys.. 
<Loki> It looks like we have SOME sense of order here :)
<Marlboro2> ok
<sCary> frag, that bastard wasnt around friday! he missed out on all the snot.. so i hooked up giggler
<Marlboro2> kinda
<Loki> I'm going to start and hope the rest of this works out.
* sCary licks loki
<Somberfire> gentlemen :)
<Loki> Okay. :)
<Marlboro2> shesh
<WCU-DoGBeRT> !op
<WCU-DoGBeRT> amaazing
<WCU-DoGBeRT> i am surprised that u hip guys didnt leave
<ELM-Somberfire> Glad you guys didnt leave :)
<levelord> why would we miss all this?
<sCary> exactly
<Loki> Alright :)
<Romero> Who wants a job at Ion Storm?        just kidding.  
<ELM-Somberfire> OKay enough guys...
<Loki> heh.
<levelord> I do!
<ELM-Somberfire> We want to get this happening :)
<levelord> I hate THIS place
<ParadoX> First person to msg me gets a job at ion
<levelord> ...or maybe Garland?
<Romero> uh...
<Loki> Could you hire me as "general greater of mayhem" ?
<Loki> :)
<Loki> Mayhem and chaos expert.
<ELM-Somberfire> Next one who does that dies..
<Loki> Okay... We're going to start. :)
<Loki> I think the chaos has died down .
<sCary> dont ask me any questions.. i just work here.
<Loki> Levelord: We'll start with you :).... 
<levelord> ouch!
<Loki> Levelord:  When did you start getting into level editing, and what attracted you to do it ?
<WCU-Marlboro2> sorry
<ParadoX> levelord: DID YOU DO ONLY ONE LEVEL IN THE SHAREWARE DUKE NUKEM 3D VIDEO GAME?!
<levelord> Jan of 1994 doing levels for some game called... ...called... DOOM, I think
<levelord> I'm writtin' that one done, pal
<giggler> Levelord was actually a janitor at 3drealms.. cmon guys its not funny
<levelord> well, that wasn't exactly the job title, but the description is close
<Loki> Alright, Giggler.. how about you.. when did you start geting into editing... 
<ParadoX> Ahhh...Doom - I remember that game...hmmm
<levelord> why don't you grab a bite to eat or something paradox
<giggler> Loki: I've been editing since Doom, but didn't take it too seriously until Quake began
<levelord> ...put something in your mouth!
<ParadoX> levelord: gotta keep you guys straight
<levelord> blow!
<levelord> .... ;)
<ParadoX> doh!
<Loki> hehe..Alright... Paradox: how about you.... When did you start editing... and what got you into it ?
<levelord> he hasn't yet!
<Bigbeaver> Woop
<ParadoX> loki: I started editing Wolf3d levels back in high school - Then went to doom.  It consumed about 50% of my classtime doing sketches and stuff
<giggler> I saw some of paradox's doom maps.. that stuff doesn't count ;)
<ParadoX> levelord: oh yeah
<ParadoX> gig: allright 
<ParadoX> hehe
<giggler> Paradox: just kidding man.. your Doom stuff rocked
<Loki> Paradox: Before you started editing professionally... how long did you actually spend perday editing levels ?
<ParadoX> loki: I would come home from my real job (sys admin at cray computer) and spend the rest of the night doing Doom maps - usually till 2 or 3am
<Bigbeaver> who
<Bigbeaver> knoes alot about irc nethacking?
<ELM-Somberfire> jezzzzzz
<Loki> Giggler: Well, keeping on the same thread... How long did you spend editing levels.. and what did you do before you found you editing obsession? :)
<giggler> Loki: before I was into editing, I was into playing.. I was a Doom fanatic.  When I was at school and making quake maps, I would begin after classes at 3 Pm, and finish at about 5 Am while working 
<ParadoX> Did I say 2am?  I meant 6am
<giggler> that was for only a couple weeks though :)
<levelord> I stayed up until 7am!
<ParadoX> I never sleep
<levelord> ...and we lived in a box
<ELM-Somberfire> :)
<levelord> ...on the side of the road
<Loki> And Levelord: So... before you got into you're editing obsession... What did you do, and what sort of skills did you develope from that that helped you in your editing career.
<giggler> I had to be spoon fed me meals while working
<levelord> I was in software, aerospace stuff, and started playing that wicked, evil game DOOM, it was hook city from there on in
<levelord> "spoon fed"!?! ...I had to run a cathater to the bathroom and made a special spatula to pry myself from the chair
<Loki> Giggler: How do you get the inspiration for most of your levels ?
<levelord> from me!
<Bigbeaver> hu
<giggler> I've done some different stuff.. sometimes I look at real architecture, or I just play with textures until I find a set that gives me a feeling for a level
<giggler> and then there was this one time just as I was leaving the bathroom.. oh nevermind
<Loki> Levelord: same for you :) Where do you get your ideas for your levels? :)
<levelord> dreams, books, lots of movies
<levelord> ...and like Giggler, lots of times "shit happens" on the fly
<Bigbeaver> df
<Loki> Why don't you all just answer this one : An audience question:  what sort of music do you listen to 
<levelord> nails!
<levelord> marilyn manson!
<levelord> barry manilow
<ParadoX> NiN, Metallica, Garbage, Manson, Poe, (Chick bands), No doubt, Jewel, Peppers, lots of stuff
<giggler> NiN, lots of alternative. Right now I listen to Garbage a lot.
<Romero> I was the first map designer, for what it's worth. :)
<giggler> anything but rap or county
<ParadoX> Lots of fully orchestrated stuff when doing maps
<Loki> Levelord: I'll get your insight on this one:  We're all into doing rotating brushes now.  We note there's not a LOT of rotating brushes in the levels, they get used only at key points mostly... Is this becaus
<ParadoX> loki: Overuse is abuse, plan and simple
<ParadoX> plan=plain 
<levelord> rotation was one of the last things we programmed, so there wasn't much time
<levelord> there's no "i" in "plan"
<levelord> people, that really is the true romero
<Loki> Another big questions I've heard alot of :  What are the legal implication of us using hipnotics modifications and textures ?
<ParadoX> level: There is no "W" in "Team"
<levelord> as long as you don't sell anything of ours, I believe it's okay
<levelord> ...oh ya, thanks para
<giggler> using the hipnotic quakec and textures is the same deal with using the quake stuff
<ParadoX> loki: We will personally kill you :)
<levelord> ...there "brain" in "Atkins", either
<giggler> don't make a cd and sell it )
<Romero> Yes, i am the ancient one.
<Loki> <Mojapo> Q: what are their steps (if any) when deciding on an initial layout for a level? What do they strive to include/exclude in terms of environment?
<autolycus> Romero: what are their steps (if any) when deciding on an initial layout for a level? What do they strive to include/exclude in terms of environment?
<Romero> I don't know what Hipnotic does when designing levels.  :)
<levelord> easy, john, easy!
<autolycus> sorry...replace "their" with "your"
<ParadoX> We usually look at what Romero had done, and dont do that. :)
<giggler> heheh
<levelord> LOL!
<autolycus> heh
<Romero> Then why does the first map in Scourge look like my Base maps?  Hmmm....
<autolycus> hehe
<autolycus> Romero: The 'SuperSecret' in Quake, with the red logo, and 'TC - TW' written under it, whats it all about, who are the people, and what is the logo?
<giggler> oooh
<sCary> uhoh
<levelord> time to dance, girls!
<Romero> I CREATED THE BASE MAPS!  REVEL IN MY BASE GRAPHICS!
<ParadoX> Romero: Ummm..
<Romero> Sorry.
<giggler> Romero: a little cutting and pasting never hurts
<autolycus> hee hee
<ParadoX> I MADE EM BETTER!! MUAHAHAHA
<ParadoX> oops
<Loki> Levelord: "The Lost Mines" has been an extremly popular level.... did you anticipate it would be that great of a level when building it.
<giggler> I think sCary is gonna die of a laugh attack over here
<Romero> The super secret is the Raven logo from Tim Willits, who created the Raven levels.  The TW stands for Tim Willits and TC is the name of his sister, i believe (she helped)
<ParadoX> Richard always knows his levels will be great
<levelord> loki: never really think of the audience in that way, I just do the level, ya know
<levelord> easy, tom, easy!
<ParadoX> levelord is modest - we all know his stuff rocks :)
<levelord> what are you setting me up for now, paraone
<Loki> Okay.. Everyone:  How long does it take you to create a level.... an how long do you spend a day editing ?
<levelord> ...go on, do it!
<ParadoX> uhh...
<ParadoX> hehe
<Romero> When i saw Scourge of Armagon, i was rocked down.  It was the most amazing piece of level design i've seen in any game up to this point.  I must learn from them.
<ELM-Somberfire> I agree romero :)
* ParadoX blushes
<levelord> soon, my son, soon
<levelord> soon you will learn the ways
* Romero slaps Romero around a bit with a large trout
<levelord> loki: sorry, we went off, didn't we... ...I'd say a week or two of 12 hour days
<Loki> So, a 12 hour day is normal for you guys... how much of that involes playing quake ?
<Loki> :)
<Romero> About 5 hours.  Oh, you mean Hipnotic?  I don't know.
<levelord> never played the game, myself
<levelord> has anyone ever played Duke Nukem?  ...oh, sorry
<Loki> Alright.. another big one ... What can we expect next from Hipnotics new pack ? 
<giggler> we aren't making another pack 
<levelord> tits!
<giggler> the next pack is being made by Rogue Entertainment
<levelord> ...oh, I am sorry
<giggler> we are making a game
<levelord> ...was that out loud?
<giggler> haha
<giggler> levelord, wake up!
<sCary> control yurself rich.. jeeze... we have probs with him sometimes...
<Loki> Romero: And for you... Ion Storm is planning on putting out a number of new games... will they be as 'open' and easily user-modifiable. ?
<Loki> Maybe I should of asked : What sort of new product can we expect from Hipnotic ? :)
<levelord> tits!
<ParadoX> lots of tits
<levelord> ...shit!
<sCary> tits rule
<giggler> maybe a few breasts..
<levelord> ...what was the question?
<levelord> ...oh ya...
<giggler> well, make that an even # of breasts
<levelord> ...we're doing another 3D immersion
<levelord> ....with tits!
<ParadoX> We have some increidble stuff planned, I just WISH I could talk about it :)
* sCary nods
<levelord> don't tell `em about the glasses, tom!
<ParadoX> levelord: shhhh
<Loki> You guys have probably seen a lot of levels that have been released on the net... What advise can you give people who want to attract the attention of the gaming markets... 
<levelord> spend more time!
<giggler> Stop making quality levels, I want to keep my job. <g>
<levelord> most of the internet stuff is wayyyy toooo simple
<Loki> levelord: can you be more specific maybe? More time on what aspects in particular ?
<ParadoX> focus on doing stuff that only has one room, with all the monsters in it..:)
<levelord> so, gig, noone's told you yet about coming in early tomorrow?
<Loki> Romero: We'd love to hear you input on this one, as another prospectice employer :)
<Loki> "prospective"
<giggler> levelord: hmm, earlier than the regular 4:00 Am.. thats kinda harsh
<levelord> well, you won't need to stay long
<giggler> oh, I get it :(
<giggler> :)
<levelord> ...just to pick up a piece of paper
<levelord> ...pink paper
<ParadoX> hahaha
<levelord> don't laugh, mr kansas
<giggler> hehe, I'm bringing this computer home tonight to do some work, ok?
<Loki> Alright.. another popular questions:  what sort of comptuers do you guys work on.. ?
<levelord> I've already got 4 computers now
<levelord> pentiums
<levelord> lot's o' RAM, though
<Loki> regular old pentium 75s :) 
<levelord> ...tom, your keyboard is sticky, BTW
<levelord> ...can you come in early, too, and wipe it off?
<ParadoX> levelord: Will do
<levelord> apreciated
<levelord> ...or, as they say up north... ...appreciated
<Loki> How long, on these big 'ol pentiums of yours does it take to fully QBSP/Light/VIS a level ?
<levelord> loki: levels with wide open areas can take 12+ hours for VIS
<levelord> ...john's maps go for about 5 minutes, though
<giggler> heh
<Loki> Levlord: Another popular questions for you... how *DO* you manage those big areas with the vis problems and high r_speeds ?
<Loki> with"out" :)
<levelord> sure, I tell you, you tell a friend,... ...and then I got no job!
<levelord> ...it just takes time to build them slowly and watch for the first signs of framerate disaster
<levelord> ...and you have to be a god
<levelord> ...a humble god
<levelord> ...and incredibly good-looking, humble god
<Loki> Okay... Giggler, Paradox: You guys have been quiet :) what do you guys HATE about editing ? the one part you with you could just make levelord do :)
<levelord> ya, tell `em, mike!
<giggler> well, aside from what we already make him do, I wish we didn't have to place ents for multiple skill levels
<giggler> it makes for a hell of alot of playtesting
<levelord> ...and don't forget all the mopping and sweeping
<levelord> it's a real hell over here
<ParadoX> loki: Ummm..
<ParadoX> loki: getting lightsourcing to look right is kinda tough at times.
<autolycus> wtf
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<levelord> framerate!
<Romero> Later guys!  Gotta go kick some NaTaS ace!
<firenze> hhe
<firenze> lagged server
<kolinahr> ?
<Q-Wolf> ?
<WCU-DoGBeRT> hmmm
<WCU-Marlboro2> :)
<Darkman> ?
<firenze> rejoining from a netsplit
<levelord> later, john
<Romero> Bye guys.  See ya soon!
<ParadoX> later john
<levelord> everyone say "bye-bye"
<item_ben> "bye bye"
<ParadoX> "bye-bye"
<levelord> ...okay, now wave
<ELM-Somberfire> Bye John :)
<Loki> okay.. I think I'm going to finsih off here :)
<Loki> Clannet just can't seem to handle the load we're putting on it.
<levelord> we won't invite john next time
<Loki> I'd like to thank the hipnotic guys for comming out, and putting up with everything :)
<item_ben> ya.. him and his big mouth
<Loki> Anything you guys want to say before you de-moderate the channel ? :)
<Loki> ..and let hell break lose ? :)
<giggler> actually, I really wish sCary would shut up..
<levelord> this was a blast, loki, thanks to y`all
<levelord> let `em rip
<item_ben> giggler: ya, him and his big mouth
<Loki> REember everyone: If you have any OTHER editing questions... Levelord is our "guru" on the worldcraft page at planetquake.. Send you're questions there and he'll give you some of his advice.
<ParadoX> item_ben: uhh
<giggler> sCary I wrote something for you.. its kind of obscene but here goes:
<giggler> --paradox is the BSP p1mp
<giggler> --romero is a quad wh0re
<giggler> --level0rd is the mountain p1mp
<giggler> --sCary is a wh0re
-> *levelord* you guys gonna stick around fer a bit? answer q's from the teaming masses?
<item_ben> giggler: you forgot to say "llama" and "w00d"
* sCary spreads em
<ParadoX> --giggler is the Nice car wh0re