This is a DooM .LMP "Competition" Entry - Please forward it... NM13-1ST.TXT NM13-1ST.ZIP NM13-334.LMP - NightMare! ( CAN handle it! :-) & NM13-325.LMP - " " Recorded using Doom2 Version 1.9 Doom2 -PlayDemo with Version 1.9 DooM II - Level 13 - "DownTown" Kills 50% (Items 34) Secrets 12% and Time 03:34 ----- Kills 43% (Items 37) Secrets 12% and Time 03:25 ----- Introduction... I recorded this collection of NM13-??? .LMP's over the past two months in preparation for an attempt at a DHT D2I title... Anyway, after waiting for *OVER* two months [ ! 8-( ] for this exam, I figured that continuing to secretly hold onto these - so that no-one would get the chance of copying the methods used and "steal" this Out-of-Base D2I level which I had considered to be "mine" - was getting to the point of being a joke... I wrote to Mr. DHT and asked him if this is what he "intended": ie. Potential candidates practicing the required Out-of-Base D2I levels to the point of getting SOoo... good at them that we would soon become TOO good at them, eg. On NightMare! AND Under the Par Time, such that to re-record a lesser achievement for a DHT D2I title would become just too easy; fairly boring to both -Record and -PlayDemo; and overall a pretty pointless(?) exercise... AND All this time feeling that we needed to keep these achievements to ourselves so as to prevent candidates that HAD received their exams from using any of this knowledge to complete the title for themselves... ALSO The l---o---n---g delay between requesting an exam and receiving it was IMHO getting rather ridiculous and had the effect of introducing yet another "race condition" of needing to complete our exams as soon as possible (any which way) after receiving them because it was quite likely that other candidates would be working on the same Out-of-Base levels and whether or not they would be successful would depend almost entirely on the time it would take Mr. LMPS to "pass" previous uploads... would we have a day, a week, a month... [ two !?! ] to complete these before the then uploaded Out-of-Base levels would be GONE ?!? Mr. DHT has asked me if he could publish the e-mail, with these concerns, that I sent him ( and I have agreed ;-) and so maybe they are justified... [ ? ] Anyway, I had decided to release these NM13-??? .LMP's without any further delay and on that VERY day [ The CTN-APR1.ZIP update was almost complete though I had got side-tracked doing yet more D1I analysis (See CTN-APR2.ZIP for those details...) ] and guess what ? ... Yes, I got my exam !!! I knew that, due to the above "race conditions", I just had to complete this exam ASAP - ie. make it quick and not necessarily great - as I already knew that another D2I candidate [ George I. Bell... although we had already e-mailed each other and "traded" our intentions :-) ] was going to use the SAME Out-of-Base maps and there may well have been others [ ? ] that also intended to do similarly... I completed (and uploaded) my D2I exam in two (or rather three) days - a record in itself perhaps for an advanced title [ ? ] - but since [ I believed that ] I needed to do this as soon as I possibly could, I felt "forced" to use the substitution rule to replace my assigned (unpracticed) "hard" level with a second (!) (practiced) Out-of-Base level. This has the effect of denying a future D2I qualifier and since the levels were all "just done" none of them are particularly great... Almost ALL of the .LMP's in this NM13-??? collection are better, but I did have *thirty* times the amount of time to think about, practice plus actually record them... Finally, I may have done the DHT system a dis-service by rating NM13 and NM20 as medium and easy levels respectively... NM20 may actually be the more difficult level for the average player to complete. It's just that [ you can see that ] I had had SOoo... much practice at NM13 that it was TOO easy for Me but I remember that it took quite a while to first complete it - I'd had some assistance with NM20 [ it had already been done by others ] and solved it within a day. I have now re-played NM20 several more times and have had a rate of failure of perhaps over 80% whereas with NM13 - although I really can't see this level anymore - the only place where I might fail is at the "tele-jump" to the blue door and that rate of failure is, I believe, less than this 80% If I were asked to reconsider rating NM13 and NM20 as medium and easy - with other mediums such as 04(!), 05, 07, 10, 30 and 31 - I would say that the levels NM13 and NM20 are BOTH "Easy" ! ;-) Now, it wouldn't make sense to release ALL of my .LMP's of "Me" completing this level, [ I have over 50 of these ! :-) ] but it does make sense to release *some* of these - showing my progress over the lengthy period of practice ;-) Back to the actual .LMP's... Description :-) Now, this is NOT the first time that I completed this mission... These were the second and third times, respectively... The first looked really messy and I screwed up over-and-over but I suppose that that first time was necessary for Me to KNOW that it really was possible... I soon [ within a day ] followed up with these two successful attempts ! :-) The trick to completing (M)ANY of the DooM (II) missions on the NightMare! difficulty is, first of all, to know a fairly "safe" lightning route... If you can simply "fly" by the monsters on UltraViolence you can often do the same on NightMare!. You just need to keep moving... AND, secondly, you need to know what you must do - like get the keys, weapons and power-ups - and also what you must NOT try to do... re-visiting areas is often NOT a very good idea because the goodies are gone and those monsters will probably have returned... Sometimes it may be necessary to just "chance it" - Sometimes whatever the trick used works and sometimes it just does not !?! It becomes a case of just trying it over and over until you "pull it off"... though if there are more than three places where you need to "chance it", each with a 25% chance of success - .25 to the power of 4 which equals = 1 potential success in 256 attempts, I'd suggest that you should [ do these kinds of calculations and ] forget it :-( The difficult parts of this level are quite simply getting each of the keys and avoiding taking a fatal amount of damage during meeting your objectives... And this also includes getting your fragging weapons... Finally, of all of the monsters that might get in your way, and thus require the most attention, are those damn Ravenants that surround the room with the blue door which contains the "second" invulnerability sphere plus the only (?) teleport to the yellow yey. Now, level 13 has two VERY useful invulnerability spheres it it. You don't have any choice about when to take the "second" one of these but there is a scope for some choice about the first one. I began by taking the descision to leave this "first life-ball" for that critical "tele-jump" to the blue door of the room with the "second life-ball" plus teleport. Instead, I chose to take the secret 200% armour (right at the beginning) and use that to get the rocket launcher - It doesn't matter how much damage I took to get it, since I would always be left with at least 100% armour ( Think about it ! ;-) and I could use the berserk box to maximise my health after that :-) [ And besides if I got killed, it was early enough so as not to matter - just try again ! ] The rest of these attempts were pretty straight forward except that I reserve using the plasma-gun and/or rocket-launcher until the final parts of my runs. This has the result of Me being so very low on health at some point during both runs - 8% at the end of the first and just 1% in the middle of the second. This doesn't matter because I can pick up that little bit more right at the end OR while invulnerable BUT it does go to show that neither of these runs were completed at all "safely" leaving much room for improvement... [ See NM13-2ND.ZIP for those ! :-) ] Actually, in both attempts, I "wasted" plasma killing imps where this wasn't necessary and later waste time picking up health and an invisibility sphere that doesn't do me any good at all but I learn from this for later attempts... One fascinating part of one of these .LMP's [ & I forget which ] is that, in one, I trap a pink demon behind me in the yellow key room and, for some strange reason, it doesn't bite me... I don't understand why it didn't ! ;-) S.;-) D1I S. Widlake s.widlake@rl.ac.uk